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  • 1 Rodo // Jan 23, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    There is also a tradition of books (like José Enrique Rodó’s *Ariel*) that use The Tempest as an allegory for Latin America in opposing ways. Rodo used the text to urge Latin American’s to adopt classical values and literatures, not to reject the culture of the west. It is false, then, to say that there is only one way to use the Tempest. There is a multi-dimensional tradition going back a century at least that is rich in implications for Mexican culture. This is why you have to let subject experts decide what can and can be taught.

  • 2 Peter // Jan 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Rodo,

    I have no objection to teaching The Tempest in an English or Western Literature class. But when it is taught to indoctrinate students, I cry foul.

  • 3 SFJD // Jan 23, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    I cry foul when any curriculum that’s designed to get students to think critically about history, and have frank discussions on issues like racism, is termed “indoctrination”

  • 4 Peter // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    SFJD,

    How come thinking “critically” about history always means a version of history that makes America look worse? Never have I heard a left-wing revisionist assert that American history got it wrong and America is really a better country than we had thought.

    You are awfully naive.

  • 5 Roger // Jan 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    By your own definition Peter Saturday the book that should definitely be banned from ethnic discussion is ‘The Bible’!
    Get real.

  • 6 Peter // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Roger,

    The Bible already is banned from ethnic discussion, and every other discussion that takes place in a public school. It might be you that needs to, uh, “get real.”

    Stop the indoctrination. You don’t own the public schools.

  • 7 Berna // May 9, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    You are so ignorant it makes me sick. This post is ludicrous. Teaching subjugated knowledge can hardly be classified as having a hidden political agenda or indoctrination. I suppose for decades our educational system has had some sort of historical amnesia regarding the the removal (read: genocide) of indigenous populations, the enslavement and pseudo-emancipation of African/black subjects, the appropriation of territories through colonial conquest of Mexicans, and the expulsion of Asians. Those were just minor bumps in the historical road to great US excpetionalism, correct? It had nothing to do with US imperialism empire and the legacies of differentiation that have so beautifully manifested themselves in our current society, right? So now we can’t teach our children the truth or else someone calls foul? Please. Salon.com didn’t use the Tempest to “convert” people into supporting ethnic studies. It used the title in the post to exemplify how completely ignorant and incompetent the leaders of our society have become. You likening immigration to historical truth is like a horribly-written, fallacious student essay I get during the first week of class. Get your history and facts straight.

  • 8 Peter // Jun 30, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Dear Berna,

    Your hatred is showing. The Tempest is English Literature and should be taught as such. It should not be used to advance yours or anyone else’s anti-American agenda.

    You said that I am “likening immigration to historical truth…” I hope you flunk your students for writing incoherent sentence fragments like that? The fact of immigration is an historical truth. What else could it be?

    You also spelled the word “exceptionalism” incorrectly and, as you know, I take points off for sloppy spelling. Use a dictionary. Finally, you said “teaching subjugated knowledge…” That’s another incoherent and grammatically incorrect fragment. One teaches facts, not “knowledge.” Knowledge is what results from the teaching of facts.

    You don’t teach children the truth, you indoctrinate them. You have an agenda. You should be permanently enjoined from being within 500 yards of a student.

    By the way, who are you and where do you teach? Your anonymity is proof of your cowardice.

    Stop indoctrinating people and start loving the country that gives you the sacred right to write offensive, childish drivel like the comment you left on this blog post.

  • 9 Peter // Jun 30, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Berna,

    American history had nothing to do with The Tempest.

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